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Re: Sadly, it must be said.

Post by Grass Hopper on Sun Nov 01, 2009 9:03 pm

more than that Razz then a unit would be stuned every attack Razz or almost...
prolly closer to .7 ish

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Re: Sadly, it must be said.

Post by Glycine on Sun Nov 01, 2009 9:11 pm

Is the strangling a root or a stun? Because then every .7 seconds, an enemy is rooted/stunned for 1 second xD


Might need to make the stun .75 seconds and the cooldown 1 second.
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Re: Sadly, it must be said.

Post by Grass Hopper on Sun Nov 01, 2009 9:16 pm

well, creeps trigger it too... so 1v1 itll rape (which means ill change it) and in crowds its much mroe managable

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Re: Sadly, it must be said.

Post by Glycine on Sun Nov 01, 2009 10:01 pm

We could make the lash do the damage, at a much lower percentage.
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Post by Grass Hopper on Sun Nov 01, 2009 10:14 pm

umm >.> isnt that how its working now? (saying the lash damages, or saying lucius damages doesnt really change anything)

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Re: Sadly, it must be said.

Post by Fromundaman on Mon Nov 02, 2009 10:47 am

That sounds pretty good. Would this be an active skill or a toggle by the way?
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Post by Grass Hopper on Mon Nov 02, 2009 12:04 pm

passive i think o.o

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Re: Sadly, it must be said.

Post by Fromundaman on Mon Nov 02, 2009 1:01 pm

Passive wouldn't solve the problem, not to mention a stun every second as a passive is kind of crazy, even if it is a mini-stun.
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Re: Sadly, it must be said.

Post by Grass Hopper on Mon Nov 02, 2009 3:17 pm

well, should be moved to the dev topic... but u cant make it active target Razz cause that would be hard to keep up (with the 1 second cooldown and all Razz)
and why should it be toggle? it ends up being the same thing

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Re: Sadly, it must be said.

Post by Fromundaman on Tue Nov 03, 2009 11:36 am

Well, toggle at least drains mana (AKA isn't permanent!).

That being said, when I meant active, I meant the skill going off and doing these effects for a set duration after being activated (Then the skill itself having a higher cooldown, with just the lashes having a 1 sec CD when the skill is active.)

Seriously, a 1 sec CD auto-ministun is a buff to a hero we're trying to nerf. Let's not do like what happened with Asurmen Razz
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Re: Sadly, it must be said.

Post by Grass Hopper on Tue Nov 03, 2009 1:15 pm

well, he loses his 36% damage reduction, his 6 second cd 250 aoe nuke, and gets a heavily nerfed ult Razz
he loses abunch of what makes him such a scary dps hero, and in turn gains a different sort of survivability skill (that is only insanly op in a 1v1 situation, which means i could increase the cooldown to something like .... 1.5, and make it last something like .65 seconds)
but a toggle doesbnt make 100% sense to me... (and toggles dont have to drain mana Razz thats what i was thinking)

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Re: Sadly, it must be said.

Post by Fromundaman on Tue Nov 03, 2009 2:13 pm

I dunno... we can try it, but it seems too OP for me IMO.
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Re: Sadly, it must be said.

Post by Glycine on Tue Nov 03, 2009 3:29 pm

I say let's let the skills stand a bit for now until we get into testing the new lucius (probably for .46-.47). No harm done that way, and if he gets too powerful, we'll fix it.
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Re: Sadly, it must be said.

Post by Fromundaman on Tue Nov 03, 2009 3:50 pm

Ehhh... I guess...

But why would we wait that long? No chance of him being changed in 0.45?
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Re: Sadly, it must be said.

Post by Grass Hopper on Tue Nov 03, 2009 5:05 pm

lmao, yah the lucius remake thread is checked for .45 Razz
and its better to hammer out balances before actually making the skills Razz

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Re: Sadly, it must be said.

Post by Glycine on Tue Nov 03, 2009 5:58 pm

Ah, I see he's for .45. Didn't know.

As for Lash...
I would even prefer it not stun at all. Just interrupt an attack in progress, but allow them some control to move or cast a spell. That'd be like a .25 second stun every 1 second or so.
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Re: Sadly, it must be said.

Post by Grass Hopper on Tue Nov 03, 2009 6:00 pm

well, i could silence attacks for ~.5 seconds? and super slow them... so that can still cast, but not attack, and movement sucks alot more
and this way, we can up the duration because thats alot less powerful then a stun

or, when i was thinking stun, i really ment ensnare/roots kinda skill, not stormbolt kinda skill

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Post by Glycine on Tue Nov 03, 2009 6:21 pm

Roots would work well as an implementation of it. What would be the AoE of the skill?
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Post by Grass Hopper on Tue Nov 03, 2009 6:22 pm

i meant wheover attacked him got rooted as opposed to storm bolted....
and if your talking about whats the activation range of it? same as current. (ie, if hes attacked at all >.>)

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Re: Sadly, it must be said.

Post by Glycine on Tue Nov 03, 2009 6:33 pm

Yeah, that's what I understood by it. An ensnare works better than a stun.
Hm. Lots of thoughts to think, except I have a test in an hour.
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Re: Sadly, it must be said.

Post by Grass Hopper on Tue Nov 03, 2009 6:34 pm

ha, dont fail!

also, no one likes my idea of the attack silenec and slow isntead of the ensnare? D:

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Re: Sadly, it must be said.

Post by Glycine on Tue Nov 03, 2009 9:28 pm

Lol, I had to leave then, so I was just typing something.

Now that I think about it, it'll be quite good. The silence attack and slow.
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Re: Sadly, it must be said.

Post by Grass Hopper on Tue Nov 03, 2009 9:30 pm

awesome XD
and it could last much longer than .25 seconds Razz

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Re: Sadly, it must be said.

Post by Fromundaman on Wed Nov 04, 2009 11:58 am

To be fair, I think both could work well, so long as it's not a straight stun every second Razz
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