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Post by DeusMechanicus on Sat Dec 12, 2009 11:39 pm

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"Your presence does not surprise me, Assassin. I have known of you ever since your craft entered the Eastern Fringes. Why did I not have you killed? Because your mission and the act you are about to commit proves the truth of all I have ever said or done. I merely punished those who had wronged, just as your false Emperor now seeks to punish me. Death is nothing compared to vindication."
- Last recorded words of Konrad Curze

Innate: Ripper of Nostromo
"After being torn from Terra by the powers of Chaos, Konrad Curze was deposited on the planet of Nostromo- a planet where the few wealthy lorded over the starving, poverty-stricken masses. Konrad would soon become the vigilante known as the 'Night Haunter', hunting and mercilessly slaughtering those he marked for death in Nostramo Quintus. He left his targets to be found in the streets every morning, disembowled, dismembered, or beaten beyond recognition. A gruesome and unquestionable message to all- rich or poor, corruption was death."

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Gives Konrad +10/20/25/30/40/45 dmg.
Whenever Konrad kills an enemy, 10/*/20/*/30/*% chance to add a "Fear" token to surrounding enemies in 200/*/300/*/400/* AoE, reducing IAS and dmg by 5/*/10/*/15/*% for 3/4/5/6/7/8 seconds. Stacks to max of 15/*/30/*/45/*% (3 tokens). Each new "Fear" token renews the wearoff countdown.

Skill #1: Ave Dominus Nox
"Hail the Lord of the Night!, the rallying cry the Night Lords. The dark and bloody reputation of Konrad Curze would scare entire systems into surrendering during the Great Crusade, and leave his war-hardened opponents and former brothers cowering in fear during the Horus Heresy. The mention of the 'Night Haunter' could reduce men to boys."

Cast

Sends enemy units in 200/300/400/500 AoE running away from Konrad for 2/3/4/5 seconds. Those with "Fear" tokens are frozen in fear for 1/*/*/2 seconds per token, unable to move / attack / cast, suffering -1/2/3/4 armor per token.

Skill #2: Visions of Terror
"Since birth the Primarch of the Night Lords has been plagued with visions of a dark and terrible future. These visions of dread have largely shaped the character of Konrad Curze, setting him on a merciless, and largely misunderstood, mission to save the galaxy from the visions that haunt him. Upon the Emperor's arrival at Nostromo, Konrad was overtaken by a vision so terrible he nearly clawed out his own eyes. Stopped by the Emperor, "Konrad Curze, be at peace, for I have arrived and intend to take you home." Curze responded, "That is not my name, Father. I am Night Haunter, and I know full well what you intend for me.""

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Whenever a unit attacks Konrad in melee, 10/15/20/25% chance Konrad has a 'vision' of the future. Knocks back all units within melee range by 300/350/400/450 and stuns Konrad for 1.5/2/2.5/3 seconds and gives the attacking unit a "Forseen" token. A unit with a "Forseen" token cannot activate this skill again. "Forseen" tokens last for 10/15/25/30 seconds. Units with "Forseen" tokens take 10/15/20/25% more dmg from Konrad's attacks. Cannot be activated more than once every 30/25/20/15 seconds.

Skill #3: Vindication over Life
"When Horus began the Heresy, Konrad, following his visions, sided with the Traitor Legions. The Night Lords began a campaign of terror across the galaxy, leaving entire worlds devestated in their wake. To prove to the entire galaxy that evil could not go unpunished, could not be free to do as it wished, Konrad sacraficed himself and his men, leading them into the taint of Chaos and certain doom."

Cast

Konrad goes into a frenzy, attacking anything within striking distance. Takes 10/15/20/25% more damage, but gains +20/30/40/50 dmg, +15/20/25/30% IAS / IMS, and 10/15/20/25% cleave for 3/4/5/6 seconds. If Konrad would die while this skill is active, he becomes invulnerable for the remaining duration and will die afterwards (= deny).

Ultimate: The Night Haunter
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Re: [Incomplete]Konrad Curze

Post by 13loodRaven on Sun Dec 13, 2009 6:27 pm

Ha, this dude is obviously dead right? Depends on what part of the Imperium hes from, could you maybe clarify on that before we develope this hero?

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Re: [Incomplete]Konrad Curze

Post by DeusMechanicus on Sun Dec 13, 2009 6:35 pm

Konrad Curze aka Night Haunter was the Primarch of Legio VIII, the Night Lords..
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Re: [Incomplete]Konrad Curze

Post by 13loodRaven on Mon Dec 14, 2009 3:18 am

I think for the innate should be some sort of orb, eg: Once a unit killed is under this effect, all nearby enemy units become fearfull, losing ias, ms, and damage, and even more if Curze is present. Also give passive damage to Konrad?

Maybe skill one should be like the innate, major debuff and maybe a silence in a cone effect?

Skill two: #/#/#/# + bonuses when Curze gets within striking distance of an enemy hero?(maybe each attack?)

Skill three: (a bit touchy) Konrad leaps to the target point raving about vindication, careless for his own life. Once he hits the target point he 'spins' (much like axe in dota) crippling, and rushing to the weakest enemy hero with a major gain in movespeed.?

Ult: Maybe something like a windwalk, rush to select point, knockback stun etc, or a active spell immunity?

Just btw you dont have to consider these, if you already have a skillset planned Smile

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Re: [Incomplete]Konrad Curze

Post by DeusMechanicus on Wed Dec 16, 2009 4:13 pm

Thanks for the suggestions. I've added effects for his skills (except his Ultimate). They'll need some tweeking, just layed out the general idea.
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Re: [Incomplete]Konrad Curze

Post by Grass Hopper on Wed Dec 16, 2009 4:26 pm

i liike it XD
the spoiler tags make it slightly difficult to follow... but from what i pieced together from a brief skim... its good Very Happy

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Re: [Incomplete]Konrad Curze

Post by DeusMechanicus on Wed Dec 16, 2009 5:25 pm

LoL.. Changed it to "Quote" instead of "Spoiler"
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Re: [Incomplete]Konrad Curze

Post by Grass Hopper on Wed Dec 16, 2009 7:53 pm

much better Razz
and i still like him! Very Happy

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Re: [Incomplete]Konrad Curze

Post by Grass Hopper on Sun Feb 07, 2010 11:57 pm

hmm, i still still like him XD finish up the ult, im moving this to developement

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Re: [Incomplete]Konrad Curze

Post by 13loodRaven on Mon Feb 08, 2010 3:03 am

I personally think visions of terror's knockback needs to be nerfed, say 125/150/175/200. The current knockback is godly, so maybe his ult can be a sort of slow, or a much needed spell immune avatar; each 'fear token' gives X seconds of spell immunity, to make his 'disabling damage dealer' role more effective, thats the impression i get. His first four skills would make him a great killer early, farming is no problem.

His ultimate better not be too good, you have invested ALOT of effects in your first four skills, but that can be tweaked and fluffed out once you have completed him.
Good work btw ^^

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Re: [Incomplete]Konrad Curze

Post by Grass Hopper on Mon Feb 08, 2010 4:42 pm

oh,a nd WHY does he stun himself for 3 seconds in his snd skill XD

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Re: [Incomplete]Konrad Curze

Post by Legionofwar on Mon Feb 08, 2010 9:04 pm

hmm intrresting hero set up
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Re: [Incomplete]Konrad Curze

Post by DeusMechanicus on Mon Feb 08, 2010 10:55 pm

Why does he stun himself? 'cause he's a Primarch and he can?! ... Actually, I don't know.
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Re: [Incomplete]Konrad Curze

Post by Grass Hopper on Mon Feb 08, 2010 10:56 pm

i can see why he might need to... but 3 seconds is... no XD

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Re: [Incomplete]Konrad Curze

Post by DeusMechanicus on Mon Feb 08, 2010 10:58 pm

i r teh suxxorz at da math. Do you not know this yet?
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Re: [Incomplete]Konrad Curze

Post by Grass Hopper on Mon Feb 08, 2010 11:00 pm

oh i knew Razz

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Re: [Incomplete]Konrad Curze

Post by Grass Hopper on Tue Feb 16, 2010 9:01 pm

and, find an ult for this guy! Very Happy
hes our night-lords chaos hero

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Re: [Incomplete]Konrad Curze

Post by Glycine on Tue Feb 16, 2010 9:20 pm

..... GRASS BAD PRIMARCH

But seriously, don't put him in the normal version of the game. xD I'd be happy to use the other notable Night Lords Character.
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Re: [Incomplete]Konrad Curze

Post by Grass Hopper on Tue Feb 16, 2010 9:38 pm

if we have c'tan and greater daemons in the normal version, we can have primarchs Razz

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Re: [Incomplete]Konrad Curze

Post by Grass Hopper on Sat Feb 20, 2010 4:06 pm

something gly said in passing that might fit for his ult, i dunno.

makes konrad and allies invisible
could be passive or active or toggle (prolly not passive >.>)
and possibly have some sort of effect for breaking inivs

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Re: [Incomplete]Konrad Curze

Post by Glycine on Mon Jun 21, 2010 9:47 pm

Errrrrrm.

No. Conrad Kurze is not going in this. xD

The same skillset can be given to a Night Lords individual, but to put a primarch in will earn us so much mind-boggling spew from people that it's not worth it.
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Re: [Incomplete]Konrad Curze

Post by 13loodRaven on Tue Jun 22, 2010 8:17 am

Maybe we could enter other primarches... C'mon we already have Phoenix Lords, just tone them down to suit. (Probably once we have ran out of hero ideas)

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Post by Grass Hopper on Tue Jun 22, 2010 1:00 pm

so, your saying we can enter the skillset, but we cant call him konrad curz?

thats ridiculous Razz

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Re: [Incomplete]Konrad Curze

Post by Glycine on Tue Jun 22, 2010 3:58 pm

Change the names, a few effects, etc.

Because Grass, it's either we put all the Primarchs in who are still alive (And Cruze isn't, even!), all the Primarchs who ever existed, or none of them at all. You cannot nerf the skills down to that of a normal individual, because the people who play the map will pick up on that. Yes, we did it for the C'tan, but that's because:

1. There are times when their power can wane and there are only 4 of them.
2. People haven't really picked up on the absurdity of using a C'tan, which is supposed to be on par (power-level wise) with things that simply aren't mortal.
3. People don't really care as much about the Necrons because they haven't received all this attention. If we put one Primarch in, who's dead no less, we will get a ridiculous outcry saying where's my Fulgrim, or my Vulkan, or my Leman Russ (The list can go on).
4. I recall we did have a debate about primarchs a while back, and the conclusion reached is that they should belong in a mode separate from the normal hero classes. Right now, he's the only Primarch made and there are no plans for anyone to make a Primarch within the next 3-4 versions, yet. The skills will fit a special Night Lord Hero, with proper adjustment, but in no way, shape, or form should we put a hero named Conrad Kurze in the game unless we're prepared and actively working on a primarch mode.

A name is but a name, Grass. It's the skills which make the hero, and the skills are just as malleable as the name. It may be a black rose, but under any other name, people can still smell its quality, while not knowing what it truly is.
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Re: [Incomplete]Konrad Curze

Post by Grass Hopper on Tue Jun 22, 2010 5:07 pm

you look at the primarchs and see "this godlike human" that can destroy everything. the C'tan are the same and they are going in the map

theres *nothing* preventing us from putting primarchs in other than an irrational fear that either 'they have to be too powerful' or 'people will complain' that X primarch isnt in.

its entirely possible to tone down a 'super' hero to fit the WC3 (we did it with the C'tan already), and if people complain... well... people always complain. if they dont complain about primarchs, they'll complain about something else

the bottom line: primarchs *are* valid candidates for the map, dispite your disagreeal.


however: if you can rename this hero, go for it, im ok with that... just get past the block that primarchs cant go in

also: eldrad is dead* Razz he's still a hero in the map


*i know, eldrad was never pronounced dead... but hes lost anyway.

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