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Post by 13loodRaven on Wed Jun 23, 2010 8:10 am

We could base a map on the Rhana Dandra, the final battle against Chaos. This would make the whole fighting thing make alot more sense, and also since it hasn't been staged in any codex's, and just a little fluff, it would give us a whole load of freedom to base it on.

It is said that the Emperor will take part in it, and Horus will be fighting against Chaos, for he somehow was reincarnated and also regained his sanity. This battle will probably have only the all-powerfull characters from Warhammer 40k, such as Primarches (and essentially Phoenix Lords) and exeedingly powerfull characters such as the C'tan, and every other worthy hero too, for the battle will potentially obliderate the Matterium and the Immaterium.

Tis just a suggestion, feel free to shun it and call it ridiculous, but hey from an AoS POV it wouldn't look too silly, as in the current AoS we do have Orks siding with Chaos, and C'tan too... When was the last time the C'tan decided to have buddies? Razz

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Re: A new idea for a totally new map.

Post by Fairemont on Wed Jun 23, 2010 11:13 am

I think it would be too much work currently for everyone to just up and make a new map. =\

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Post by Grass Hopper on Wed Jun 23, 2010 12:01 pm

i was thinking (if i could make it work) that i could do a Horus Heresy LotRish map for SC2 when i get more used to the editor

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Re: A new idea for a totally new map.

Post by Fairemont on Wed Jun 23, 2010 1:11 pm

I need to get my hands on that editor. =\

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Post by Grass Hopper on Wed Jun 23, 2010 1:15 pm

lol. at this point your prolly gona have to wait untill SC2 is released.

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Re: A new idea for a totally new map.

Post by Fairemont on Wed Jun 23, 2010 1:19 pm

Lame.

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Re: A new idea for a totally new map.

Post by DeusMechanicus on Wed Jun 23, 2010 8:21 pm

The Rhana Dandra is the Eldar war of destruction.. The Chaos Gods will launch their final assault on the Eldar and wipe them, and their pantheon, out of existence.. It never says if any of the other races will take part, or even have knowledge of the battle..

Horus is gone for good - his soul was obliterated during the Emperor's final psychic assault. If his soul had survived, the Chaos Gods would've ressurected him along time ago.. And then his body was destroyed by the remnants of the Sons of Horus..

The C'tan aren't a part of the Materium or the Immaterium, so I don't see them giving a crap what happens.. Though I guess even in their etheric form they require stars in the Materium to feed on..

Anyway, a Horus Heresy LotRish would be ... massive.. Its battles spanned pretty much the entire galaxy.. I'd suggest going with something like the Jackson Valley Campaign from SC where it's individual battles in chronological order instead of an open map.. Isstvan III / V, Signus Prime, Calth, Terra, et cetera..
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Re: A new idea for a totally new map.

Post by Fairemont on Wed Jun 23, 2010 10:30 pm

RAGNAROK!!!!!!

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Re: A new idea for a totally new map.

Post by Grass Hopper on Thu Jun 24, 2010 1:39 am

DeusMechanicus wrote:
Anyway, a Horus Heresy LotRish would be ... massive.. Its battles spanned pretty much the entire galaxy.. I'd suggest going with something like the Jackson Valley Campaign from SC where it's individual battles in chronological order instead of an open map.. Isstvan III / V, Signus Prime, Calth, Terra, et cetera..

yeah, that was my main problem with that project Razz its too freaken huge for a single map to do.
if i could somehow fit it, it would be epic (it would go great for that theme, i guess)

is there any momentus battle that spans a large enough area (but not too large) in the HH that would be condensable into a LotRish style?
like the battle on terra? was there a large siege or was it just a small number of people?
(i dont know my HH fluff very well >.>)

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Re: A new idea for a totally new map.

Post by cellrawr on Thu Jun 24, 2010 3:58 am

<_< The Imperial Palace was under siege, and it was epic. Rogal Dorn bolstered the palaces defences further than they normally were. Titans were used, Sanguinus was breaking Bloodthirster's backs. It was half of the remaining loyalist forces against all the traitor legions. Horus was forced to allow the Emperor onto his battle barge for their duel to try and end it since the rest of the loyal legions were like a day away from Terra.

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Post by DeusMechanicus on Thu Jun 24, 2010 7:28 am

Not all the Traitor Legions.. The Night Lords weren't there..

But, yeah, the Siege of Holy Terra could be made into a LotRish map easily.. The thing about the Imperial Palace is ... it's kind of like the Vatican, it IS its own city.. It's a massive complex, not just a single structure..

Signus Prime was a planet wide battle between daemonic hosts, a Bloodthirster and Greater Daemon vs Sanguinius and his Blood Angels legion..

Calth ... was fought mostly underground, in habspires and whatnot.. Between the traitor Word Bearers and the loyalist Ultramarines..

Plenty of hero and unique base potential in all three..
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Post by Fairemont on Thu Jun 24, 2010 8:10 pm

You could also do like a helms deep style map with a like.. Ork/Tyranid/Chaos swarm vs Imperial guard/Space Marines/Eldar, not necessarily all at once, but like one vs the other. Lol

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Post by DeusMechanicus on Thu Jun 24, 2010 9:30 pm

Battle for Signus Prime...

The Blood Angels are dispatched by Horus to the Signus cluster under the false pretense of putting down a rebellion. They arrive to a daemonic onslaught...

Possible Blood Angel heroes:
Sanguinius, the Blood Angel
Azkaellon, Sanguinius' Herald
Chaplain Berus
Raldoron, Master of the Guard
Dreadnaught Leonatus
Terminator Saevin
Dreadnaught Cloten
... and a whole number of other minor characters mentioned in the novels

Possible Chaos heroes:
Kyriss the Perverse (Keeper of Secrets)
Ka'Bandha (Bloodthirster)
... and any number of cookie-cutter daemonic servants

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Battle for Calth...

Horus dispatches the Word Bearers to destroy the Ultramarine staging point on Calth, to prevent them from reinforcing Terra during the upcoming battle...

Possible Word Bearer heroes:
Lorgar, the Word Bearer
Kor Phaeron, the Black Cardinal
Jarulek (Dark Apostle)
Marduk (Dark Apostle)
Kol Badar
Eliphas (Aspiring Champion)

Possible Ultramarine heroes:
... They go on and on and on and on, fucking Ultramarines
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Post by Grass Hopper on Thu Jun 24, 2010 10:30 pm

Fairemont wrote:You could also do like a helms deep style map with a like.. Ork/Tyranid/Chaos swarm vs Imperial guard/Space Marines/Eldar, not necessarily all at once, but like one vs the other. Lol

i've already started a Nids vs. Marines helms type map for SC2 Razz

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Post by 13loodRaven on Fri Jun 25, 2010 8:27 am

The point being of this idea that anything is possible and nothing has been written, apart from it being the final battle against chaos and everything.

@ dues, you might want to look into Rhana Dandra a bit, a popular belief of this final battle is this; the emperor and all the patriarchs (even horus, though not insane and corrupted anymore) will be reborn and lead the imperium on a holy crusade against chaos that will end with the chaos gods destruction and the emperor asending to god-hood.

but alas there is nothing I can say, or you can say is right or wrong, it just simply hasn't been officially outlined by the warhammer guys.

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Post by Grass Hopper on Fri Jun 25, 2010 2:45 pm

The story of warhammer is the Book of Revelation in the Bible! Razz

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Post by DeusMechanicus on Fri Jun 25, 2010 4:25 pm

There's a massive difference between what people want to happen (ie; popular belief) and what GW has actually put out on the subject.. The prophecy of the Rhana Dandra concerns only the Eldar - the Pheonix Lords will summon all the Eldar together for one final showdown with Slaanesh. All the Eldar will perish, Feugan last. With Feugan's dying breath, Ynnead will awaken in the Warp and fight to decide Slaanesh's fate once and for all. If too many of the Infinity Circuits have been damaged / destroyed, then Ynnead will not be powerful enough to defeat Slaanesh..
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Post by 13loodRaven on Fri Jun 25, 2010 8:14 pm

Or he will do the gendark thing and succeed Slaanesh as the god of wispers Very Happy

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