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[Incomplete] The Devourer, Flame of the Warp.
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DarkWanderer
Type-4-Doragon
Fromundaman
Grass Hopper
13loodRaven
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Re: [Incomplete] The Devourer, Flame of the Warp.
moving to the dev forum
things i need to see before it gets an official stamp:
-update the first post with changes discussed here
-needs at least an attempt at stats
-preferably have a story
-(personal) i dont like the name Khorne is the name of the blood god
things i need to see before it gets an official stamp:
-update the first post with changes discussed here
-needs at least an attempt at stats
-preferably have a story
-(personal) i dont like the name Khorne is the name of the blood god
Re: [Incomplete] The Devourer, Flame of the Warp.
Sorry, but now hopefully he wont need any changes. This is my final copy.
*El'Brukael* stats.
Str based.
Str:25 +2.7 per lvl.
Agi:23 +1.8 per lvl.
Int:14 +1.1 per lvl.
Base damage: 57-65.
Base armour: 4.
Story;
Born human in the Warp itself, El'Brukael was raised by terrors and Daemons that would have any being turned insane within a matter of moments, being born among these beings rendered El'Brukael immune to such horror.
Proving himself by breaking Khorne Beserker champions, with his uncanny ability to channel pain and suffering into an offensive fighting style, he earned himself a name, and a place in the Chaos forces.
He is now known as The Devourer, and has unnoficially taken the late Commanders place; the Inheritor.
Bringing his own pain to the battlefield, El'Brukael is a horror to face, and as many now know, incredebly painful to die by his hand.
Skills:*EDIT*
Innate:The Devourer.
El'Brukael earns his keepsake name from this skill, when his points have filled out to the maximum allowed amount, he goes wild, blink striking randomly around the field, attacking enemies for double his attack each strike.
Random blinks from 1-5.
Has a chance to do an orb effect on strike, frost, splash, poison, slow and corruption.
Chance to do orb effect; 11%.
If El'Brukael kills a hero using his innate, he gains maximum 'p' for 10 seconds.
Skill one;
The hero gains 'points' from being attacked/having spells cast on it. One attack = 1p, while a spell = 2p.
Each point deals 13dmg, and a 0.09 sec ministun. Ministuns stack to do a final stun.(NUKE)
1, can store up to 12p.
2, can store up to 16p.
3, can store up to 24p.
4, can store up to 30p.
Spell two, (PASSIVE)
The hero gains more damage and takes less, this spell requires 'points'.
1, 10 dmg , blocks 15. Activates at 6p.
2, 20 dmg , blocks 20. Activates at 12p.
3, 30 dmg , blocks 25. Activates at 18p.
4, 40 dmg , blocks 30. Activates at 24p.
*Note* If the hero does'nt have enough for the higher leveled passive, it goes down to whatever level it has enough points to sustain.
Spell three,(CAST, must stay within 800 range of the target or stops drain.)
(damage dealing, drains 'p'.)The hero makes a link to a target unit, dealing damage and gaining points.
1, Lasts 7 secs, drains 1p per sec, deals 45 dmg per sec.
2, lasts 7 secs, drains 1p per sec, deals 65 dmg per sec.
3, lasts 8 secs, drains 2p per sec, deals 95 dmg per sec.
4, lasts 8 secs, drains 2p per sec, deals 125 dmg per sec.
ULTIMATE: The hero targets a hero, causing it to relive the damage it had dealt to it in the past few seconds, and slows it. 10% slow that lasts for 6 secs.
1, Dmg in past 3 secs.
2, Dmg in past 4 secs.
3, Dmg in past 5 secs.
Jeez, I didn't want to edit anything, just wanted to get the final copy in. Creating heroes is more frustrating than I thought. >_>
*El'Brukael* stats.
Str based.
Str:25 +2.7 per lvl.
Agi:23 +1.8 per lvl.
Int:14 +1.1 per lvl.
Base damage: 57-65.
Base armour: 4.
Story;
Born human in the Warp itself, El'Brukael was raised by terrors and Daemons that would have any being turned insane within a matter of moments, being born among these beings rendered El'Brukael immune to such horror.
Proving himself by breaking Khorne Beserker champions, with his uncanny ability to channel pain and suffering into an offensive fighting style, he earned himself a name, and a place in the Chaos forces.
He is now known as The Devourer, and has unnoficially taken the late Commanders place; the Inheritor.
Bringing his own pain to the battlefield, El'Brukael is a horror to face, and as many now know, incredebly painful to die by his hand.
Skills:*EDIT*
Innate:The Devourer.
El'Brukael earns his keepsake name from this skill, when his points have filled out to the maximum allowed amount, he goes wild, blink striking randomly around the field, attacking enemies for double his attack each strike.
Random blinks from 1-5.
Has a chance to do an orb effect on strike, frost, splash, poison, slow and corruption.
Chance to do orb effect; 11%.
If El'Brukael kills a hero using his innate, he gains maximum 'p' for 10 seconds.
Skill one;
The hero gains 'points' from being attacked/having spells cast on it. One attack = 1p, while a spell = 2p.
Each point deals 13dmg, and a 0.09 sec ministun. Ministuns stack to do a final stun.(NUKE)
1, can store up to 12p.
2, can store up to 16p.
3, can store up to 24p.
4, can store up to 30p.
Spell two, (PASSIVE)
The hero gains more damage and takes less, this spell requires 'points'.
1, 10 dmg , blocks 15. Activates at 6p.
2, 20 dmg , blocks 20. Activates at 12p.
3, 30 dmg , blocks 25. Activates at 18p.
4, 40 dmg , blocks 30. Activates at 24p.
*Note* If the hero does'nt have enough for the higher leveled passive, it goes down to whatever level it has enough points to sustain.
Spell three,(CAST, must stay within 800 range of the target or stops drain.)
(damage dealing, drains 'p'.)The hero makes a link to a target unit, dealing damage and gaining points.
1, Lasts 7 secs, drains 1p per sec, deals 45 dmg per sec.
2, lasts 7 secs, drains 1p per sec, deals 65 dmg per sec.
3, lasts 8 secs, drains 2p per sec, deals 95 dmg per sec.
4, lasts 8 secs, drains 2p per sec, deals 125 dmg per sec.
ULTIMATE: The hero targets a hero, causing it to relive the damage it had dealt to it in the past few seconds, and slows it. 10% slow that lasts for 6 secs.
1, Dmg in past 3 secs.
2, Dmg in past 4 secs.
3, Dmg in past 5 secs.
Jeez, I didn't want to edit anything, just wanted to get the final copy in. Creating heroes is more frustrating than I thought. >_>
Last edited by 13loodRaven on Tue Sep 15, 2009 10:21 pm; edited 1 time in total
13loodRaven- Contributor
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Re: [Incomplete] The Devourer, Flame of the Warp.
True, but seeing them in game is more rewarding too.
Well... actually... none of my heroes are in yet, so I'm just talking out of my ass...
That being said, great hero. I like it, and it looks fun to play!
Well... actually... none of my heroes are in yet, so I'm just talking out of my ass...
That being said, great hero. I like it, and it looks fun to play!
Fromundaman- Moderator
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Re: [Incomplete] The Devourer, Flame of the Warp.
lmao the flayed one is gona be next after the fex from
also blood: my advice is put the points system into the innate, because the innate is then made useless without the first skill
also blood: my advice is put the points system into the innate, because the innate is then made useless without the first skill
Re: [Incomplete] The Devourer, Flame of the Warp.
Is Fex this coming patch?! Awesome!
(Oh, and I agree with Grass.)
(Oh, and I agree with Grass.)
Fromundaman- Moderator
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Re: [Incomplete] The Devourer, Flame of the Warp.
yeah, hes 3/5 skills done. and the last two are really ez, then ill get some pay testing done this weekedn... i hope XD
Re: [Incomplete] The Devourer, Flame of the Warp.
The innate is quite powerful, so it might as well have some sort of drawback.
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Re: [Incomplete] The Devourer, Flame of the Warp.
edit - Nvm, since you didn't mean carnifex.
Btw Hopper, Shouldn't we move the carnifex posts to the right topic?
Btw Hopper, Shouldn't we move the carnifex posts to the right topic?
Last edited by DarkWanderer on Thu Sep 03, 2009 8:39 pm; edited 1 time in total
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Re: [Incomplete] The Devourer, Flame of the Warp.
Perhaps, I was refering to my innate for El'Brukael >_>
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Re: [Incomplete] The Devourer, Flame of the Warp.
Yeah, sorry about that. The fex posts threw me.
Back to the topic, I really like El'Brukael's innate; I hope you don't change it too much. If you set the points right, it shouldn't be that overpowered.
Back to the topic, I really like El'Brukael's innate; I hope you don't change it too much. If you set the points right, it shouldn't be that overpowered.
DarkWanderer- Contributor
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Re: [Incomplete] The Devourer, Flame of the Warp.
well, it makes sense for the points to be in the innate, because its useless unless u learn the first skill, which is always bad design
Re: [Incomplete] The Devourer, Flame of the Warp.
It should be useless, imagine having a innate like that at the start of the game = Kill everyone.
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Re: [Incomplete] The Devourer, Flame of the Warp.
balance wise: no, it wouldnt be imba, unless it triggers when your alone with an enemy.
design wise: its bad to have a skill that does nothing by itself
design wise: its bad to have a skill that does nothing by itself
Re: [Incomplete] The Devourer, Flame of the Warp.
Well, for his innate if you kill a hero, you get maxed out 'p' for a short amount of time?
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Re: [Incomplete] The Devourer, Flame of the Warp.
What else does this hero need? I put a semi-points system into the innate, maybe it should be from a kill only, not just with his innate, check out the small edit.
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Re: [Incomplete] The Devourer, Flame of the Warp.
would u be so kind as to update the first post in this thread please? ^^
Re: [Incomplete] The Devourer, Flame of the Warp.
Done, done and done.
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Re: [Incomplete] The Devourer, Flame of the Warp.
i really like this idea but maybe instead of it being a set amount of dmg per second make it scale so like do his str in dmg per second also if someone dosnt learn the first skill what hapens when they try and use the third one
also on the third skill i dont think it is as op as people think it would need to be play tested because ud have to save up a bunch of points and its channeling
also on the third skill i dont think it is as op as people think it would need to be play tested because ud have to save up a bunch of points and its channeling
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Re: [Incomplete] The Devourer, Flame of the Warp.
The third skill your talking about is the drain right? Its not channeling, its sort of like farseers mind war, and it does not require 'p' to use
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Re: [Incomplete] The Devourer, Flame of the Warp.
Before this hero even gets charted to be coded, all the skills need lots and lots of explanation behind them. There are so many questions I have about the mechanics of the hero. The idea behind the skills are fine, except for skill 2, but it needs more elaboration.
I'll edit this post with my comments, so keep an eye on it.
I'll edit this post with my comments, so keep an eye on it.
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Re: [Incomplete] The Devourer, Flame of the Warp.
innate: when attacked, he gains a point, when a spell is cast on him, he gains 2.
when he gains full points, his attack orders are changed into blink strikes for a duration
(this is my own little change)
skill one: target nuke that deals damage and stun based on how many points stored
skill two: for each point, he gains X damage, and takes X less damage
three: mindwar like spell, deals damage and slow based on how many points
ult: isnt easily codable XD
when he gains full points, his attack orders are changed into blink strikes for a duration
(this is my own little change)
skill one: target nuke that deals damage and stun based on how many points stored
skill two: for each point, he gains X damage, and takes X less damage
three: mindwar like spell, deals damage and slow based on how many points
ult: isnt easily codable XD
Re: [Incomplete] The Devourer, Flame of the Warp.
One could put a measure on the health of the hero that passively notes health decreases. When the ult is used, the skill would retrieve the amount of damage done in the last 3/4/5 seconds and do it?
Third skill has too much damage. The point recovery might be a little much as well, since a level 4 can recover his points just like that.
Isn't it odd that we give him flat damage reduction, like Fuegan, except he had less damage reduction? Needs to be toned down.
The damage on the nuke is outrageous, while the stun duration is fine.
When he gains maximum points and blink strikes, does he still have max points after he finishes striking?
Third skill has too much damage. The point recovery might be a little much as well, since a level 4 can recover his points just like that.
Isn't it odd that we give him flat damage reduction, like Fuegan, except he had less damage reduction? Needs to be toned down.
The damage on the nuke is outrageous, while the stun duration is fine.
When he gains maximum points and blink strikes, does he still have max points after he finishes striking?
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Re: [Incomplete] The Devourer, Flame of the Warp.
ult: i would have to track the damage of every unit on the map. which is wayy to much and would prolly slow down performance.
now if it worked like maladict from dota, then thats alot more possible
(takes additional damage for damage taken over the duration)
so make it deal the damage after the 3/4/5 seconds, instead of damage taken in the previous 3/4/5 seconds.
three: is it numbers? cause i dont think he should gain points for that skill, only spend them
two: damage reduction needs to be toned down yes, numbers
one: damage can be reduced, numbers
innate: i would assume he keeps points, or he looses x points.
now if it worked like maladict from dota, then thats alot more possible
(takes additional damage for damage taken over the duration)
so make it deal the damage after the 3/4/5 seconds, instead of damage taken in the previous 3/4/5 seconds.
three: is it numbers? cause i dont think he should gain points for that skill, only spend them
two: damage reduction needs to be toned down yes, numbers
one: damage can be reduced, numbers
innate: i would assume he keeps points, or he looses x points.
Re: [Incomplete] The Devourer, Flame of the Warp.
Make it only usable on heroes, for the ult?
Lots of number changes, but who's doing them? xD
Lots of number changes, but who's doing them? xD
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Re: [Incomplete] The Devourer, Flame of the Warp.
eh, if he gets implemented, number changes are easy.
and still, gota keep track of 10(possibility of switch) heroes' hp... i guess its possible
and still, gota keep track of 10(possibility of switch) heroes' hp... i guess its possible
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