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Post by ChangerOfWays on Mon Sep 14, 2009 9:07 am

Jerulek The Dark Apostle.
A Dark Apostle is a symbol, of how even the most devout warriors for the Emperor can fall from grace. They are stern warriors that are fearsome on the battlefield. They are also the spiritual leaders and lead all ceremonies for their warriors. They lead and their warriors follow unquestionably, even if they know they shall die.

Strength based hero.

(Has same hp and mp as a chaplain (he's just an evil one anyways) aswell as attack dmg and speed)

Range:Melee

Movement speed: 310

Strength: 25 Agility:15 Int:17


Innate: Deamon Strength (toggle)- The Apostle bounds a demon to him, making him stronger, but makes him lose focus. (Increases attack speed, by 5/7/9/12%, but decreases armor by 6/5/4/3)

Abil 1: Arcanius Crozius- An ancient weapon, and a staff or office amongst the Word Bearers, the Apostle must be skilled with this weapon. (Increases attack dmg and armor by 5/7/9/12 and 2/4/6/8 each level.)

Abil 2: Litanies of Hate (aura)- The Apostle is extremely skilled in oratory, and shouts his faith to the heavens, instilling fear in those who hear his words. (Decreases armor by 2/3/4/5 for creeps, and 5/7/9/12 for heroes.)

Abil 3: The Gods Speak Through Me!- The Apostle slams his Crozius into the ground, as if the Gods smote the ground themselves. (Ground slam like move, stuns and does a small amount of dmg. Each level increases the stun time, by .5/1/2/3 secs, and the dmg done, by 100/150/200/300.)

Abil 4: Gehemehnet (utli)- A Gehemehnet is a symbol of the Apostles faith, through it the gods send their blessing to the warrior. (Summons a small tower that last for 15/18/21/24 secs, that spawns demons under the Apostles control)


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Post by Grass Hopper on Mon Sep 14, 2009 12:22 pm

much better Very Happy i like taht actually... have slight issues with litanies... (mostly cause its a less-interesting version of rights of battle)

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Post by Glycine on Mon Sep 14, 2009 3:18 pm

Lololololol 7 str to begin with lolololololol

lololololol 4 int and agi lololololol

Make it 27 str, 14 agi, 17 int.

Ok, that's enough of that.

For Litanies of Hate, why don't you make it do the opposite of what the Chaplain's skill does? Decreases Armor and Attack speed of normal units heavily and does the same to heroes, but to a lesser degree. Or you could make it such that for each debuff the Apostle gives to an enemy unit, he would give a corresponding bonus to units around him as well as the apostle.
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Post by Grass Hopper on Mon Sep 14, 2009 4:30 pm

cause litanies is a team buff ability... altho theoretically, u could bend the rules and make it a debuf...

and my interpretation of the stats is on a scale of 1-10... 5 being average. (amiright?)

so good strength, below average agi and int

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Post by ChangerOfWays on Mon Sep 14, 2009 4:34 pm

yup yup. and you wanna make it a debuf?
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Post by Grass Hopper on Mon Sep 14, 2009 4:45 pm

that would work fine

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Post by ChangerOfWays on Mon Sep 14, 2009 5:57 pm

then there you have it! Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Now we just need to find a skin :p
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Post by Grass Hopper on Mon Sep 14, 2009 7:22 pm

dont forget to update your first post, and put in some real stats Razz and a guestimate movespeed (300 being average)

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Post by ChangerOfWays on Mon Sep 14, 2009 8:24 pm

bloody hell!!!!
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Post by Grass Hopper on Mon Sep 14, 2009 8:25 pm

i know such effort Razz

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Post by ChangerOfWays on Mon Sep 14, 2009 8:29 pm

hey, if he makes it, itll be worth it :p
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Post by ChangerOfWays on Mon Sep 14, 2009 8:30 pm

What exactly do we want Litanies to do though?
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Post by Grass Hopper on Mon Sep 14, 2009 8:32 pm

dunno Razz you decide

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Post by ChangerOfWays on Mon Sep 14, 2009 8:50 pm

Jerulek The Dark Apostle.
A Dark Apostle is a symbol, of how even the most devout warriors for the Emperor can fall from grace. They are stern warriors that are fearsome on the battlefield. They are also the spiritual leaders and lead all ceremonies for their warriors. They lead and their warriors follow unquestionably, even if they know they shall die.

Strength based hero.

(Has same hp and mp as a chaplain (he's just an evil one anyways) aswell as attack dmg and speed)

Range:Melee

Movement speed: 310

Strength: 25 Agility:15 Int:17


Innate: Deamon Strength (toggle)- The Apostle bounds a demon to him, making him stronger, but makes him lose focus. (Increases attack speed, by 5/7/9/12%, but decreases armor by 6/5/4/3)

Abil 1: Arcanius Crozius- An ancient weapon, and a staff or office amongst the Word Bearers, the Apostle must be skilled with this weapon. (Increases attack dmg by 5/7/9/12 each level.)

Abil 2: Litanies of Hate (aura)- The Apostle is extremely skilled in oratory, and shouts his faith to the heavens, instilling fear in those who hear his words. (Decreases armor by 10/12/14/16 for creeps, and 5/7/9/12 for heroes.)

Abil 3: The Gods Speak Through Me!- The Apostle slams his Crozius into the ground, as if the Gods smote the ground themselves. (Ground slam like move, stuns and does a small amount of dmg. Each level increases the stun time, by 3/4/5/6 secs, and the dmg done, by 10/12/14/16.)

Abil 4: Gehemehnet (utli)- A Gehemehnet is a symbol of the Apostles faith, through it the gods send their blessing to the warrior. (Summons a small tower that last for 15/18/21/24 secs, that spawns demons under the Apostles control)


(Idea for the skin could be to just take a chaplain, color him red, change his crozius to something more evil, and maybe give him a cape like a grey knight.)


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Post by Grass Hopper on Mon Sep 14, 2009 8:51 pm

ummmmmm NO 25 armor reduction Razz but that works

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Post by ChangerOfWays on Mon Sep 14, 2009 8:52 pm

Well, what should be max then?
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Post by Grass Hopper on Mon Sep 14, 2009 9:21 pm

heroes have ~5-20 armor at the end of the game... taking that away is *huge* keep in mind that the librairans fear of the darkness takes away 10
aim for 2-7 loss

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Post by ChangerOfWays on Mon Sep 14, 2009 9:27 pm

(mutters incoherently) then what should numbers be?
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Post by Grass Hopper on Mon Sep 14, 2009 9:27 pm

less Razz actually. numbers dont matter really, ause i can tweek them as we go, but less Razz just reduce it drastacly

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Post by ChangerOfWays on Mon Sep 14, 2009 10:01 pm

well, just leave it to you
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Post by ChangerOfWays on Tue Sep 15, 2009 8:54 am

updated it Razz
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Post by Grass Hopper on Tue Sep 15, 2009 3:42 pm

looks good, now think of some stats for the daemons Razz

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Post by Glycine on Tue Sep 15, 2009 7:55 pm

He doesn't seem to get enough damage from his skills, although a 6 sec war stomp is absurdly good.

Crozius should have some addtional effect besides giving +damage, as it's quite spiky. Give it a chance to maim a target per hit and I'd be cool with it.
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Post by Grass Hopper on Tue Sep 15, 2009 10:40 pm

hes a support mostly Razz he doesnt have to have a ton of damage boosters

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Post by ChangerOfWays on Wed Sep 16, 2009 7:26 pm

at this point, i pass it on to you.

and idk about stats on demons, that seems to be your thing. I don't do good stats, i just give ideas (this isnt the place to talk about this).
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