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Is Chaplain the most boring hero in this game?

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Post by Fromundaman on Wed Oct 14, 2009 12:46 pm

I'm not sure what to do with him, but he needs a remake. He is by far the most boring hero in this game (And it seems everyone who I have seen play him agrees.).

Ideas, anyone?
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Post by Glycine on Wed Oct 14, 2009 3:17 pm

If his slow actually slowed, he'd be a really good hero killer. The third skill needs to make his movement speed go up as well.

But yes, he does need a remake.
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Post by Grass Hopper on Wed Oct 14, 2009 3:26 pm

hmm, i originally had +ms in his passive while he was in dev, but people said either 1: too powerful, or 2: feels like it allows him to run away instead of keep fighting.

and his slow does slow Razz just not very much XD
this version hes getting 0/5/10/15% + 1% of max life as slow, instead of just 1%.
he needs 2k hp just to get a decent slow currently, and now the skil actually levels decently.

and why do people hate supoprtive heroes Razz the chappy is offensivly supportive.

so: slow is fixed, and add ms to his passive? altho that might be too much with a proper slow

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Post by Glycine on Wed Oct 14, 2009 3:44 pm

He doesn't have a stun or a nuke, so I don't think it'll be too much. All he does is hit and get hit by things, while giving support to other heroes and creeps.
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Post by Grass Hopper on Wed Oct 14, 2009 3:45 pm

fair enough. ill add ms to his passive (altho another erason i got rid of it was because of the +ms on litanies)

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Post by Fromundaman on Wed Oct 14, 2009 7:44 pm

Yeah, my basic problem was that his only active skills are support, and that all he can really do is, as Gly put it, hit stuff and get hit.
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Post by Glycine on Wed Oct 14, 2009 8:35 pm

Ok. New skill time.

Make the AoE Ias buff also silence all enemies around the Chaplain, as they are so stunned by the fervor of his words.

Keep Slow as active, but give it a passive feature to knockback an enemy and do bonus damage.

It'll make him more useful on the whole, being a support that can shut down and start up both sides.
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Post by mr_vespa on Wed Oct 14, 2009 8:45 pm

Chappy is a tad easy to understand (this is a huge understatement, since he's basically rambo). But still, his skillset is pretty well defined.

And why give knockback to his slow? It defies the concept! lol
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Post by Glycine on Wed Oct 14, 2009 9:44 pm

Because you can knock them back in the other direction they're trying to flee? With his ms boost, he'll be able to get to them and keep attacking.

Perhaps it needs a ministun as well?
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Post by Grass Hopper on Wed Oct 14, 2009 10:24 pm

i enjoy tacking on effects to make skills interesting >.>

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Post by Glycine on Thu Oct 15, 2009 11:30 am

Razz I get your point.

Just make him do something other than hit and get hit, and he'll be fine.

PS: I really like Kharn's skill from his Chappy.

-Litanies of hate
Desription- The chaplain hates all enemies of the imperium
with a burning passion. And never shows mercy even in the slightest
*Effect- gives the chaplain a 10/15/20/25% to launch
an instant second attack after his original attack for
90/100/110/120% of his melee damage

Percents could be higher, at least for the chance to proc, but it makes him do damage at least.
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Post by Fromundaman on Thu Oct 15, 2009 2:46 pm

While I like the skill, that doesn't really solve the basic problem.
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Post by Grass Hopper on Thu Oct 15, 2009 4:35 pm

nope XD not to mention thats not really how litans wo... ok it is kinda but its more aoe...
(for TT, litanies allow the squad the chappy is with to reroll misses on the charge)

oh, and i think simple =/= boring (you cant call a hero boring and remake him on that premis, because thats just an opinion) he is relitivly simple, but not nesisarily boring.
i think making his slow actually slow, and increasing the lifecost should make enough of a difference... because as of right now, its just toggle on when fighting a hero and forget about it.

also: lol 666 postcount for fromundaman.

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Post by Glycine on Thu Oct 15, 2009 4:45 pm

Lol.

Looks good, then. We'll see how he playtests.
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Post by Fromundaman on Thu Oct 15, 2009 5:42 pm

Grass Hopper wrote:
oh, and i think simple =/= boring (you cant call a hero boring and remake him on that premis, because thats just an opinion) he is relitivly simple, but not nesisarily boring.
i think making his slow actually slow, and increasing the lifecost should make enough of a difference... because as of right now, its just toggle on when fighting a hero and forget about it.

also: lol 666 postcount for fromundaman.

True, but a lot of the people who have used him in games I have been in have complained about him not being fun (Granted, not all of them, but a good portion.). This is also why I included the poll. I agree that it is opinion, and if it turns out mine is in the minority, then leave it. However, I get the impression that a majority of players who use him think like I do.
That being said, I could be wrong.


And nice catch, I missed it XD
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Post by Grass Hopper on Thu Oct 15, 2009 10:41 pm

and yeah, i agree hes not the most exciting character... but i cant change him just cause hes boring Razz i could change him if the hero was flawed... but not just cause hes boring Razz

that being said, i stand by what i say when i say improving the toggle would help...

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