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[Tyranid] Shrike- Tyranid Warrior
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Re: [Tyranid] Shrike- Tyranid Warrior
hmm, then im seriously missing out on some nid knowledge then... XD my bad. well, i like the current set up on spine fists/wings/lash... making him more of a ganker than a dps hero... which i think is good. cause late game dps heroes are notoriously difficult to balance. ( not to mention, in my opinion, ganker heroes are so much mroe fun XD)
ok, and i didnt wanna give his ult a passive slow, cause hes already god spine fists, acid maw, and wings to incapacitate his enemies. now, i could turn him into a dps hero, give him scything talons and a slow to ihis ult... but as a concept, i dont want to do that to the hero.
and his ult gives: 38 damage, 760 hp, and a bonus (say 22.8 damage, assuming a 1v1 situation, or closer to 68 assuming a chasing situation), as well as improving the damage done by spine fists.
the innate: stuns > everything... period. if there arent any heavy stunners on their team, dont level your innate first, if there are, consider taking some stats over perhaps more levels of wings or maw. giving him a way to counter stunners (which everyone needs) gives him much more of an edge over other heroes (without giving him a spell block, cause like 3 heroes already have that)
ok, and i didnt wanna give his ult a passive slow, cause hes already god spine fists, acid maw, and wings to incapacitate his enemies. now, i could turn him into a dps hero, give him scything talons and a slow to ihis ult... but as a concept, i dont want to do that to the hero.
and his ult gives: 38 damage, 760 hp, and a bonus (say 22.8 damage, assuming a 1v1 situation, or closer to 68 assuming a chasing situation), as well as improving the damage done by spine fists.
the innate: stuns > everything... period. if there arent any heavy stunners on their team, dont level your innate first, if there are, consider taking some stats over perhaps more levels of wings or maw. giving him a way to counter stunners (which everyone needs) gives him much more of an edge over other heroes (without giving him a spell block, cause like 3 heroes already have that)
Re: [Tyranid] Shrike- Tyranid Warrior
You know what? This hero is a Tyranid Warrior. >> *tosses it over there* It comes nowhere close to the magnificence that Hive Tyrants embody. So I'll make the most terrifying of them all, the Swarmlord.
TT-wise, he's an absolute monster in close combat, when he gets there. Otherwise he's a nice paperweight to get owned by ranged heavy weapons.
Expect a tentative build to be up this evening.
TT-wise, he's an absolute monster in close combat, when he gets there. Otherwise he's a nice paperweight to get owned by ranged heavy weapons.
Expect a tentative build to be up this evening.
Glycine- Moderator
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Re: [Tyranid] Shrike- Tyranid Warrior
agreed, thats why its now a tyranid warrior
and i changed fearless to synapse. same effect, but its now an aura
and i changed fearless to synapse. same effect, but its now an aura
Re: [Tyranid] Shrike- Tyranid Warrior
Could we give him a slightly more imposing weapon than spine fists? Like a Strangler or a Devourer? xD;
Acid Maw begs overpowerness. What's the castable range on the hook?
Did we seriously give him a jump skill with no other function besides a blink? Surely more can be done with a Warrior.
And toxin sacs is somewhat lacking as an ult. You may have a Warrior who has more health than a carnifex, which makes no sense. >>
Perhaps we could give him the Alpha Warrior aura, which gives his squad the Tyranid Prime's Weapon and Ballistic skill when he joins them?
Acid Maw begs overpowerness. What's the castable range on the hook?
Did we seriously give him a jump skill with no other function besides a blink? Surely more can be done with a Warrior.
And toxin sacs is somewhat lacking as an ult. You may have a Warrior who has more health than a carnifex, which makes no sense. >>
Perhaps we could give him the Alpha Warrior aura, which gives his squad the Tyranid Prime's Weapon and Ballistic skill when he joins them?
Glycine- Moderator
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Re: [Tyranid] Shrike- Tyranid Warrior
your looking at the name and not the function, fluff above gameplay
spine fists is fine as a skill, an aoe slow/damage that can hit multiple units
and yes, it fits with his ganker/chaser theme.
and the range would be about 300-400 for acid maw, and its not really a hook, its a target abilty. no dodging.
and yes, ill reduce the duration, increase the mana cost, and increase the cooldown.
and are you suggesting we replace toxin sacs, which increases the power of his fists, tanking, and damage, as well as giving him a dot attack... to prolly a trueshot aura?
his ult, again, fits fine with his current skillset. and i doubt that he'll get more hp than the fex, cause he doesnt have as high a gain, and the fex gets his first skill.
spine fists is fine as a skill, an aoe slow/damage that can hit multiple units
and yes, it fits with his ganker/chaser theme.
and the range would be about 300-400 for acid maw, and its not really a hook, its a target abilty. no dodging.
and yes, ill reduce the duration, increase the mana cost, and increase the cooldown.
and are you suggesting we replace toxin sacs, which increases the power of his fists, tanking, and damage, as well as giving him a dot attack... to prolly a trueshot aura?
his ult, again, fits fine with his current skillset. and i doubt that he'll get more hp than the fex, cause he doesnt have as high a gain, and the fex gets his first skill.
Re: [Tyranid] Shrike- Tyranid Warrior
I like the Acid Maw skill, but that is not what an Acid Maw really is. The skill seems like it would act more like a Lash Whip. Also the Acid Maw was recently restricted to only the Pyrovore.
a_broken_twig- Space Marine
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Re: [Tyranid] Shrike- Tyranid Warrior
actually, as of Codex: Tyranids 3rd edition, that is the exact description of acid maw.
soo... old hero
soo... old hero
Re: [Tyranid] Shrike- Tyranid Warrior
>> Think we could update him a bit? xD
Glycine- Moderator
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Re: [Tyranid] Shrike- Tyranid Warrior
no XD cause the hero works fine as it is
chaser/ganker! he works
chaser/ganker! he works
Re: [Tyranid] Shrike- Tyranid Warrior
k I've not read that version before
a_broken_twig- Space Marine
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