Hireables mechanics change

so, new hireables:
summons a *single* hireable per use. now on a 20 second cooldown instead of 45.
honor increases the stat of the unit, and it no longer increases spawn count (this might change for certain units => IG squad etc)
hireables only costs honor when you have 10 or more honor

So it's a mini hero in a way?

and Hireables need to cost honor at all levels with this change. Otherwise one can just spam them.

as opposed to now?
and thats kind of the intention... ish XD

and yeah i guess they are a mini hero... but not nearly as powerful, and it would still be one per lane.

so, random example:
Eldar Fire Dragon
400 hp, 1 armor, 310 ms; 350 range, 32-39 normal damage, 1.4 atkcd. Deals 1.7x damage to buildings
for every 2 honor, the dragon gains 30 hp, +4 damage, and .5 armor

at 10 honor, it becomes an exarch.
Exarch: 550hp, 4 armor, 315 ms; 600 range, 61-73 damage, 1.6 atkcd. deals 2.1x damage to buildings, has a 25 dps immolation.
gains 5 hp for every honor over 10

from every game that ive been in, nobody really bothers to use hireables till end game. Most people are too busy building their heros. Without the masses of hireables endgame, there would be no way to push back the assaults near the end. So i suggest keeping the amount of creeps spawned.

have you seen a 3-hireable-spawn push down the entire map? even against a full enemy team of heroes? i have. its too much

and the power of hireables early without honor is laughable at best, so this will kind of have a happy medium between the two. buff the individual hireable, but cut the numbers

lol ur both missing the power of massed hireables. If some1 (like i have) buys the hireables everytime they get a change it can push whole sides and the other team couldnt stop it because of the numbers. The hireables may not be much alone but if u get them with sm/orks they destroy

Kiba[dok] wrote: If some1 (like i have) buys the hireables everytime they get a change it can push whole sides and the other team couldnt stop it because of the numbers.

that is precisely why they are getting changed

noted here:

Grass Hopper wrote:have you seen a 3-hireable-spawn push down the entire map? even against a full enemy team of heroes? i have. its too much

<.< I'd like to say I was a part of that game, and we would of countered Kiba's push and won (were at his base), if his teammate didnt leave and I got switched over, making me and him win the game!

lmao XD
im sure you've never been pushed to your base, having lost both base outposts, then had hrieables win the game for you.

I suggest making it to where they are like unit upgrades that cost a lot of gold and some honor, so after u buy them they always spawn 1 per lane with the normal orks or space marines. If you have ever played aotz u know what im talking about, just dont do it with heros.

thats not a bad idea, but if they are too much, you know no one's gonna save enough money to do that when there are "uber items" to buy

How about this? Every time you buy a hireable, 1 or 2 honor is taken from you and put into a "bank" of sorts for that hireable. Once the amount of honor in the bank reaches 10, the hireable upgrades to its next form.

Also, we need to edit the new suggestions of hireables to fit this restructuring.

that is a great idea imo.

hmm... altho i think that should be a different options from the actual hireable purchase.
the hireable should be one thing, and the hireable upgrades shoiuld be another.

do you agree? if so, should it be a global hireable upgrade, a type upgrade, or an individual upgrade?
(like, upgrade fire dragons, upgrade siege hireables, upgrade hireables)

and ill eventually get to converting the current + suggestion hireables to this new mechanic.
(and the hireable upgrade method allows for a bit more controlled additional spawn in the case of the tau and IG)

In this case, should we make the actual hireables cost only gold and the hireable upgrades cost honor? I would prefer it be an individual upgrade.

thats what i was thinking. the units only cost gold, but the upgrades costs honor.

maby a 100 gold costs for the hireable? or incrase the price and make it more than a limit of 1? like max of 4 in a tavern, but keep the same restock cooldown? just ideas.

then the upgrade would be like 2 honor, and still increase the level by 1, since any hero can do it now, they will cap off at 20 honor.

and an individual upgrade will take up a lot of space...

I'm just putting this out there probably off topic ,but the hireables don't seem to go down the middle lane they just split up and push the 2 sides. I'm not sure if this was intentional.

Oh and with the new hireables your chatting about, if only one spawns how do you decide which lane it will travel down? Random, or just go left to right or something?

1 per lane actually.

and the middle problem is noted